'Experimentele' 'andere' bands/projecten (non-metal)

[The Chosen]

Kolo, zijproject van een voormalig drummer van nokturnal mortum.

Wat voor muziek is het?

[Johannes de Dopeste]

Wat voor muziek is het?

Moeilijk te zeggen, beetje ambient folk muziek wellicht?
Er staan wat mp3's op hun site, probeer ze en kijk wat je er van vindt.

http://kolo.u-d-s.org/news.html

[paradigm shift]

Alamaailman Vasarat, Finse band, speelt naar eigen zeggen horny and punky secret agent brass music. De band bestaat uit:

Jarno Sarkula - soprano, tenor & bass saxes, bass clarinet
Erno Haukkala - trombone, tuba, piccolo trombone
Miikka Huttunen - pump organ, grand piano, keyboards
Tuukka Helminen - cello
Marko Manninen - cello
Teemu Hänninen - drums, percussion

Soms denk je gitaren met distortion te horen, maar dat zijn dus blazers met effecten eroverheen. Ik vind het wel vet, het heeft wel wat van estradasphere.

http://www.vasarat.com/

mp3's:

http://www.vasarat.com/media/vasar.mp3
http://www.vasarat.com/media/lentava.mp3
http://www.vasarat.com/media/astia.mp3
http://www.vasarat.com/media/olisimme.mp3
http://www.vasarat.com/media/mieli.mp3

[Fusion]

Alamaailman Vasarat, Finse band, speelt naar eigen zeggen horny and punky secret agent brass music. De band bestaat uit:

Jarno Sarkula - soprano, tenor & bass saxes, bass clarinet
Erno Haukkala - trombone, tuba, piccolo trombone
Miikka Huttunen - pump organ, grand piano, keyboards
Tuukka Helminen - cello
Marko Manninen - cello
Teemu Hänninen - drums, percussion

Soms denk je gitaren met distortion te horen, maar dat zijn dus blazers met effecten eroverheen. Ik vind het wel vet, het heeft wel wat van estradasphere.

http://www.vasarat.com/

mp3's:

http://www.vasarat.com/media/vasar.mp3
http://www.vasarat.com/media/lentava.mp3
http://www.vasarat.com/media/astia.mp3
http://www.vasarat.com/media/olisimme.mp3
http://www.vasarat.com/media/mieli.mp3

Uiteraard ken ik dit En ja, ik vind t goed!

[Jepster]

Weet niet of het al genoemd is, maar ik noem Mindless Self Indulgence. Het is een soort van relnichtpunk; veel hoge zang, gebruik van drumcomputer, sampletjes etc. Ik vind het in ieder geval erg gaaf.

www.mindlessselfindulgence.com

[paradigm shift]

ftp://ftp.bunglefever.com/incoming/Secr ... 0video.mov

Secret chiefs 3 videoclip van Ur - exodus.

[Jepster]

Secret Chiefs 3 is wreed! Ik ging het gisteren weer eens een keer luisteren sinds lange tijd, maar het blijft lekker in het gehoor liggen.

[paradigm shift]

Jij hebt het begrepen

[CTTS]

65 Days of Static. Muziek ala Godspeed You Black Emperor/Explosions in the Sky, afgewisseld met wat fijne drum n' bass. Een van de betere platen dit jaar imo.

http://www.65daysofstatic.com/

al ligt de site er inmiddels uit zo te zien

[Kriestof]

godspeed you black emperor kan ik ook zeer goed verdragen

zal eens kijken wanneer die site terug werkt

[iscariah]

Idem, alleen vind ik GY!BL geniaal.

[thomaster87]

Iemand bekend met AAEN ANIMA? Tjechische avantgarde met een hoekje Doom Metal.

[Myrthe]

Weleens gehoord, maar ik was er niet al te ondersteboven van. Mij iets te 'jankerig', als ik me even zo banaal mag uitdrukken.

[cataclysm child]

65daysofstatic/GY!BE = (y)

ga 65daysofstatic zien in Leuven volgende maand

[thomaster87]

Weleens gehoord, maar ik was er niet al te ondersteboven van. Mij iets te 'jankerig', als ik me even zo banaal mag uitdrukken.

Ben ik opzich met je eens. Ik vind het wel grappig verder.

[CTTS]

65daysofstatic/GY!BE = (y)

ga 65daysofstatic zien in Leuven volgende maand

!! komen die lui nog ergens anders? (lees Nederland/bewoonde wereld)

[cataclysm child]

heb ik geen idee van

[CTTS]

kut..

26th: LEUVEN (Belgium), Stuk Kunstencentrum.
27th: ANTWERP (Belgium). De Natchen@De Singel.
28th: LEEUWARDEN (Holland), Venue tbc.

[paradigm shift]

ftp://ftp.bunglefever.com/pub/Mike%20Pa ... 0(VCD).mpg

Filmpje van Mike Patton en Rahzel.

[Stevevaifan]

Explosions In The Sky ....soort van stevige Godspeed You Black Emperor

[Siren]

Ik weet niet of het hier thuishoort,maar eh..iemand weleens gehoord van Radiation 4..?? They kick ass!!!

[MMayo]

Ik weet niet of het hier thuishoort,maar eh..iemand weleens gehoord van Radiation 4..?? They kick ass!!!

Nee, wat voor iets is het.. linkje.. informatie.. mp3tje?

[MMayo]

ftp://ftp.bunglefever.com/pub/Mike%20Pa ... 0(VCD).mpg

Filmpje van Mike Patton en Rahzel.

Ut dut nie?

[Siren]

probeer dit maar... http://www.radiation4.com/

nou ehh,,ik weet het niet die link naar Myspace doet het niet...

[paradigm shift]

[..]


Ut dut nie?

hier doet ie het prima... heb je wel quicktime geinstaleerd?

[Fusion]

[..]


Ut dut nie?

Die ftp server kan maar een paar users tegelijk aan. Later nog eens proberen.

[Alice-d]

http://www.soundofzzz.nl/

[Alice-d]

http://www.soundofzzz.nl/

[††C§M101T800‡‡]

Ik luister sinds en aantal maanden naar Goa/Psy-trance
Heel psychedélische muziek, en totaal niet te vergelijken met welke soort van computer muziek ook.

Ik ben wel benieuwd wie dit nog meer gaaf vinden op METALfan.nl

Wat DJ's/Personen die deze muziek maken:
BUILDING PEAKS
MORGANIX
XEROX
PHONATIC
NATIVE RADIO
LUNASPICE
BUZZ
TRANSMOTION
A.K.D.
PIXELS VS. INTELABEAM
MITTELSTANDSKINDER OHNE STROM,
PERPLEX
INFECTED MUSHROOM
FREQUENCY SURFERS
X-WAVES & MELICIA
GMS
THE ANTIDOTE

Download het eens zou ik zeggen.

Ik luister er al jaren naar
Probeer deze eens:

Wizzy_Noise_-_Craminal_Ping-2006-PsyPoint
Wizard Lizard - In Sane Out Sane
Wizack_Twizack
Vaishiyas_-_Unknown-Promo-2002-gEm
VA_-_Light_In_The_Dark-2005-MYCEL
VA_-_A_Violent_Reaction-2006-PsyCZ
VA - Run, Motherfucker, Run (2005) Nabi Records
VA - Boldly Audio (2005)
VA - Agitato Homemade - The Indoor Bible [PROPER, Agitato, Jul 2003] - UPE
V.A. Delivr Us From Evil - Parvati rec
Suria_-_Total_Upgrade_(System_Nipel_Remix)-2005-AoeL
Suria_-_Magnitude-2002-Psytopia
Suria_-_Dark_Side_Of_The_Sun-2CD-2004-MYCEL
Suria_&_Audialize_VS_n3xu5_-_Elastik_Mutants-(Unreleased)-2002-OXV
Suria - Logical Evolution {2004}
Scream From The Dark Galaxy vol 1
(2004) v.a. deliver us from evil
Baphomet_Engine_-_Promo_For_Freaks-2005
Blisargon Demogorgon
chemical_plasma_-_simple-(cds)-2006-byble
CPC_-_Zolods_Requiem-Promo-2006-gEmINT
Dancing_Devil_-_Wired_And_Ready-2005-MYCEL
dark punk hippies - 2005 promo -
dino-hellraiser-promo-2005-gti
Divinorum_Vision_-_Perception-(Unreleased)-2005-AoeL
Divinorum_-_Lemon_Flavored_Kiss-2005-UPE
Double_R.E.L._-_Cereal_Killerz-2005-UPE
Drugon_-_Perfect_Hallucination-Promo-2006-gEm
Dominator_Project_-_Paranormal_Connection-2005-gEm
Epik_Pulse_-_Divide_Darkness_With_Maddness-(Dhamika_Rmx)-2005-HiEM
Gaudium_-_Nordic_Nature-2005-gEm
Highcosmos_-_4real-Promo-2006-UPE
Highko - Take More Acid [2004]
Holographic Memory 3 [Solstice]-2005
I.B.I.S._-_Spread_And_Destruction-2005-MYCEL
Iron_Madness_-_Unreleased_(2006)-PBR
Legohead_and_Satan_-_Evil_Sausages-(CDS)-2004-AoeL
Magnetrixx.-.Wired.The.Remixes-Vinyl-2005-dIz-JFK
Mandalavandalz_-_Poisonmachine-2005-PsyCZ
Dark Nebula
Neuromotor
Dark Soho

verder moet je maar eens zien wat er op deze sites staan http://www.chemical-crew.tv/index.php?page=downloads
http://www.skazi.tv/index.php?page=kstuff
(Metallica - Seek and destroy Skazi remix - en The Prodigy - Smack my bitch up - remix zijn )

[cataclysm child]

kut..

26th: LEUVEN (Belgium), Stuk Kunstencentrum.
27th: ANTWERP (Belgium). De Natchen@De Singel.
28th: LEEUWARDEN (Holland), Venue tbc.

was prima optreden. live ook veel ruiger dan op cd.

[Metallist]

Mm, valt Fusion hier ook onder? Vind dat wel relaxt.

[Fusion]

Mm, valt Fusion hier ook onder? Vind dat wel relaxt.

Euh, waar val ik onder?

[Metallist]

[..]
Euh, waar val ik onder?

haha het GENRE Fusion bedoel ik. Allan Holdsworth en dat soort shit. Is wel relaxt.

[Fusion]

Ik had m wel door hoor...

[Metallist]

Ik had m wel door hoor...

Oh toch wel?

[paradigm shift]

Ik vond net dit interview met trey spruance over secret chiefs 3. Als het concept van de band je intereseert, is het een interessant artikel, Trey gaat vrij diep in op het overkoepelende concept. En als alleen de muziek je interesse heeft, staat er goed nieuws in, niet alleen staan er de volgende twee delen van book of truth en een album van holy vehm op stapel, er komen ook nog eens twee grand constitutions and bylaws, waarvan de derde al is geschreven



A journey from Unity to Multiplicity [2004-10-03]

Guitarist, arranger, producer and composer Trey Spruance presented on his fourth Secret Chiefs 3 the ambitious plan of a trilogy called Kitab al Haqq, the Book Of Truth. The answers he returned to my queries may seem rather cryptic sometimes, like the whirlwind of symbols and references found in his musical and visual concepts. I will make no attempts at explaining them as they are true to the whole Secret Chiefs 3 mystique. Read with the right eye this article can be enlightening as to what Trey is trying to convey and by this the article sets itself apart from the 'common' interviews to be found elsewhere on the web. I leave it up to the reader to decide if it's an open book or just a bunch of mumbojumbo. The Web of Mimicry provides suggested readingmaterial regarding the subjectmatter in the Museum Without Walls for those who choose to investigate.

The Book Of Truth
m[m] The trilogy is called The Book Of Truth, do we get to know The Truth by the end of it?
Trey Some people might feel that way. Others might feel that we just like to use lofty sounding titles and peddle wooden nickles to gullable doofs, but at least the music is pretty cool. Others feel they know The Truth already and resent us for having the audacity to try and corner the market on it. Otherwise they might have liked the music... but none of this has anything to do with The Book of Truth.

m[m] What does part one, Book Of Horizons, represent in this?
Trey A few things. The most general thing would be the idea of the journey/descent/impregnation of soul (if we may indulge the term) into matter. Macrocosm to microcosm, or we could say Being to Becoming. The idea of the “fall” gets all wrapped up in there, and anyone could be forgiven for mentally conceiving that as from “Above to Below”, since that's what's been done by bright humans since time immemorial. It's helpful also to see it from the another popular angle as a journey from Unity to Multiplicity - if we must default to the creation myths of modern science and Christianity, which are not appreciably different, you have a field being created from a singularity - and then a myriad of objects become the boundary points of the universe, or at least the conceptual markers. So the realm of Horizon relates to the Microcosmic field whereby interactions between things take place. For our purposes, instead of saying the Book of Horizons relates to the Below, which would be wrong, it's better to say that the Book of Horizons concerns itself with the cosmological process Above to Below. This is true from the “below” point of view at least. From the “above” point of view, if we dare say it, the energies pertaining to the event of restoration are articulated as being pointed in the opposite direction. Thus, the upward triangle, symbol of Fire, situated there on the Right, where the whole cosmological process is going in the opposite direction, i.e. down.
We insist that the “Above” and “Below” concepts not be whitewashed with such New Age slime that can only see such a dynamic as 'hierarchical' and therefore bad. This is ignorant.
Another aspect of Horizon that is in play is the creation of a three-dimensional model of the inner universe, marked at every terminal point on the three-pronged axis (of “mother letters” or spatial coordinates) by a different “band”. The journey of the “sun” takes place in this field, and shines upon each band differently at different times, depending on where the sun actually is. All the bands are placed spacially according to Traditional attributions, so none of this is at all vague or arbitrary. It may appear confusing at first. But hopefully will become more apparent as you get situated in the scheme of 'triangulation' we're erecting.

m[m] Secret Chiefs 3 manifests itself in various ways these days: The Holy Vehm, UR, Forms, The Traditionalists, Ishraqiyun and The Electromagnetic Azoth. How did the idea of the 7 bands come about and could you explain what is the purpose of it?
Trey It came about as a function of the multiplicity referred to above, which in the microcosmic act, or Art, of restoration leads eventually and inevitably through what in Alchemical terms is referred to as "Separation". We can't talk about what these represent because each stage of what they represent signifies a shift in perpective. It changes everything: hues, contrasts, angle of shadow... like a broadening, not so much a translation from one thing into another, ie, Forms “represents” Jupiter being replaced by Forms “represents” the West etc., but an expansion of the fields of vision to accomodate the signs of the 'archetype' more fully. As we are liable to do when presented with symbols and no means of relating them to their source, we initially view them from the 'creationist' perspective referred to above. In this case they are “bands” that are said to ”represent” certain things, but anyone into this kind of thing will find themselves moving towards the larger 'emanationist' point of view as his/her perspective on the interplay of all these things broadens.
In yet another sense, to continue with Formsas our example, this band is the primary visible function, or “charge”, of the solar Right side that has its more terrestrial reflection “below” in the Traditionalists (from the below point of view). Another band, Ishraqiyun, is the primary function, archetype, or “charge” of the lunar Left side that has it's more terrestrial reflection in UR (from the below point of view). At mid-point between the Left and the Right (and from one perspective, between Above and Below) all this is mediated by The Electromagnetic Azoth, which distributes the energies (melodies, phrases, ideas) around the various bands. Mainly invisible to the below, this activity forms a celestial current, as it were. The actual Earthen grounding goes through The Holy Vehm on down to M.
But from album to album the position of the sun/moon determines the weight and angle of energy each band recieves. So, again, it is not that Forms “represents” the Sun, or the Right, but that it is placed at the visible head of the solar pillar - the “above” of the solar pillar - and due to proximity recieves energies in a more primary way than the bands below it. Thus its themes will register as less convoluted than those of say, The Electromagnetic Azoth, which takes them and redistributes them in different “colours”, or The Holy Vehm, which subjects them to dissolution.
There are a million other things, attributions, that can't even be remotely touched upon here and getting into further specifics won't make sense to anyone without some background in this stuff. (Hermeticism, Neoplatonism, Isma'ili/Shi'ite Mysticism, Zohar/Yetzirah study, Traditionalism). It's just vulgar and annoying to harp on it and I will take an endless amount of ignorant shit for saying any of this at all publicly. It's inevitable: I've encountered enough self-congratulatory dick-wipes who assume that my reasons for relaying any of this kind of stuff is to buttress myself with an air of “mystery” and authority, which is of course the only reason they could ever imagine, since their own lives are filled with little beyond the usual attempts at social climbing. For those who are intersted, our website will have more discussion and elaboration of all this stuff, as will the liner notes of subsequent releases.

m[m] There's some discussion among fans about extreme metalband The Holy Vehm and if they should've been on the album because some people think those tracks disrupt the flow of the album, do you care about these complaints?
Trey I care in that it's disturbing to see the phenomenon of iTunes and personal CD burning affecting the music listener to the point where he/she thinks he/she should be the one to decide such things.
From the artist's perspective, this is like saying the Pacific ocean shouldn't be there because it disrupts the flow of mid-western praries rolling into the high plateaus of China. But it goes deeper than such a paltry arty-fart complaint. Can you imagine if Stravinsky's The Rite of Spring was pressed to CD in 1913 and indexed part by part? Just imagine how many parts would've gotten skipped over due to them “disrupting the flow”. I'm sure far fewer people would've paid any attention to the piece at all. Instead they would've made a “mix tape” with the opening Adoration of the Earth Introduction and then switched to some Scriabin Sonatas and excerpts from Pictures at an Exhibition flanked by Souza marches and then just forgotten about the rest of it.

Traditions
m[m] Would you call yourself a Muslim or is it more about spirituality?
Trey I'm not qualified to call myself a Muslim. I guess you've noticed that there's a long-winded Philosophical dimension to what I do. I try to mean “Philosophical” in the older sense, as in study of Divine Wisdom (Hagia Sophia), as opposed to the more modern version of sitting around the coffee table and chewing up the latest Lacanian elaborator and getting on endlessly about political science (though I do a lot of all that too). I definitely tend toward the “Gnostic” heresy more than anything else, I just fell into it. From the most basic level, to me it's fairly plain to see that the world presented to me by the consciousness of the age I was born into is handicapped: mentally, spiritually - it's all the same. So by default you become a “Seeker”. Communism, Capitalism, Agnosticism, Religious Fanatacism, Atheism, Anarchism, Fascism, these were all prisons that were not too hard to escape from, as long as you're willing to put some real effort into it, anyone can do it. People from every culture and every time period have done it. that's “a matter of historical record”. But self-realization demands more than just declaring: “I am an individual, don't apply your labels to me” and then just being a jerk and talking down to everybody the way I like to do. Some form of practice and/or discipline is going to be involved in any real unfoldment of self. The Muslim world has a zone called Sufism that I personally feel quite at home in. I'm not talking about Deepak Chopra here, but even so I don't understand people who have the gall to call themselves Sufis without being practicing Muslims first. My favorite one of those is “I'm a Qabalist”. Just hilarious. Two times through the whole Zohar and ten years of study and I'm exponentially farther from being "a Qabalist" than when I started. Those people in L.A. must really be smart.
No, the Traditions of the West have been utterly demolished. And I think it's safe if I call myself a Traditionalist. Therefore I have no idea what to call myself.

m[m] How did the interest in Islam/Sufi, Qabalah and alchemy come about?
Trey The need for those things just came on stronger and stronger. In my teens Nietzche and some of the existentialists had delivered me through some rough things. I did what I thought was the typical early-twenties explosion into full-on mania, since having relocated to San Francisco I found myself surrounded by a few people who really awed me. Turns out I was just lucky. Nobody I knew was into any of this stuff, but it increasingly became my only way of assimilating the cognitive gulf between the rare geniuses I was lucky enough to be exposed to versus the state of the rest of things I saw around me. More and more I found my own conceptual boundaries being smashed, forcibly and painfully sometimes, and other times just blasted apart in semi-ridiculous rapture episodes. After awhile I devoloped this sick habit of weaving things together, seeing incredible connections between things etc., you know: schizophrenia, parallelomania. Lucky for me, along with that came this uncanny thing where the “right” things would start falling into my hands just at the right time. What differentiated these things from schizophrenia was that they helped me pull my head out of the giddy fog of experiencing the “miraculous” and see that this was not anything particularly new, or novel. If really weird, undeniable occurences of “synchronicity” continue to this day, I now know that it's all in what you train yourself to look for in them (and what to not see in them).
Around '92 I'd been in this drawn-out four-year vortex that had me oscillating between fighting whatever horrendous difficult vision I'd been cursed with, and embracing it. The more I'd fight it, the more miserable I'd be, the more I embraced it, the more nuts I'd go. Finally a third option presented itself & I didn't have a choice. I suppose art historians call this finding your muse. Fucking sadistic bastard (bastard-ette?). Could be the best thing that ever happened, or demonic possession, who knows? A Daimon? A “Guardian Angel”? A “Higher Self”? Could be Satan himself. All of the above? Just my friggin' imagination? Whatever. Back then I was only trying to stay alive. But then the chains of “synchronicities” led me out of the post-adolescent dungeon, because I put some real effort into following them up... which of course led me straight into Hermeticism.

Events in The Theatrum
m[m] We've seen the release Book M and the start of the 'threepart meta-album'Book Of Truth after you announced a third and fourth Grand Constitution to follow The Second Grand Constitution And Bylaws: Hūrqalyā. What happened to those plans?
Trey They hover there waiting to be made. Mostly written - the third has been done for years. Going on a decade in '08. Consider it a “vintage” when it comes out! Actually I age most of my ideas considerably before selling them, that's just a habit of mine.

m[m] Do you have an idea how to do a tour with this seven-band-concept?
Trey We'll start small and work up to it. Two or three bands at first. In two years we'll have them all out there at once. Maybe take a few out by themselves, opening for other bands. We'll see in what order this will all take place.

m[m] You're producing Impaled's new album, play in doommetal band Asva, have a game-music company with Tim Smolens and Jeff Attridge, run the Mimicry imprint and you announced a lot of releases and liveshows by Secret Chiefs 3 and the subbands. You also read lots of philosophical and esoteric literature and on top of that you seem an avid musicfan and -collector. Where do you find the time?
Trey Um, the “game music company” has done nothing I'm aware of. I think they just threw my name up there. But it's a good idea. I've got 8 million ideas I'll never get to that I could easily piss out in a day for something or other. Best not to let it all go to waste.
The main insanity right now is the label, with releases by Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, The Youngs, Brazzaville, The Tuna Helpers, Asva, Fishtank and UR all coming up. Hopefully reissues of the first two Farmers Market CD's (only released in Norway) and a Secret Chiefs 3 tour! Somewhere in there I have to find six straight months of work time for the next Secret Chiefs 3 (Book Of Souls). It's a full plate alright, time grows on trees, I hope. I'm surrounded by them.

m[m] What about the Balkan-metal band with Tim Smolens (Estradasphere) and Dave Murray (ex-Estradasphere) mentioned by the latter elsewhere on this site?
Trey Tim and I only had a discussion about how it seems crazy such a thing as pure balkan-style metal, without all these other alien elements like jazz/fusion/”world” music hasn't happened already. Just a straight up metal band playing covers of that stuff... that's as far as it's gone. I think Tim's got some stuff up his sleeve for the next Estradasphere, but that will not be the straight up true metal thing I know will happen someday, somewhere. I can tell you know what I'm talking about, eh? If I had the time, I'd do it. If it hasn't happened in three years time, you're on...

Thanks to Frankco Lamerikx for functioning as an esoteric signpost and Fritz Hoepfner and Mark Thornton for visuals (shot at the Ishraqiyun show at SXSW 2004).

Martijn Busink

[Fusion]

Ha, dat interview is door een vriend van mij gedaan, op de musicmachine website. Die is zelf idd ook erg geinteresseerd in gsnotiek. Hij recenseert btw ook voor de Aardschok.

[paradigm shift]

Ha, dat interview is door een vriend van mij gedaan, op de musicmachine website. Die is zelf idd ook erg geinteresseerd in gsnotiek. Hij recenseert btw ook voor de Aardschok.

Ja, ik dacht die naam al te herkennen. Doet hij niet de doom-reviews?

[Fusion]

Yep, dat is m. Die gozer heeft verder n zo mogelijk nog bredere smaak dan mij.

[Emmaneul]

vet stoer

[paradigm shift]

Goed nieuws voor de Patton-fans: het debuut van Peeping Tom is (eindelijk) onderweg, en er zit ook een nieuwe tomahawk in de pijpleiding
Hier een interessant artikeltje:

Norah Jones Curses Up A Storm For New Mike Patton Project

Songstress is one of many guests on ex-Faith No More singer’s pop album.

Even though he’s slowed down in his golden years, James Brown will always be known as the hardest working man in show business. And while Mike Patton’s not exactly gunning for the infamous nickname, he’s definitely been giving Brown a run for his money.

Patton — of Faith No More, Fantômas, Tomahawk and about 30 other deranged and wondrous projects — has to work. It’s what he does. In addition to running his Ipecac Records label, the anti-rock-star rock star’s been putting the finishing touches on the self-titled debut from Peeping Tom, his four-years-in-the-making, long-overdue multi-genre pop masterpiece.

Oh, and he’s also tracking vocals for three tunes that’ll appear on Massive Attack’s forthcoming seventh album, Weather Underground. The one song he’s finished thus far for the trip-hoppers “is like a really slow, dirty ballad with mostly acoustic guitar,” he said.

Plus he’s composing soundtracks for two films (one being friend Melanie Lee’s “Pinion”), he recently lent his voice box to the in-development PlayStation 3 game “The Darkness,” and he’s been writing material for the next Tomahawk LP.

And then there’s that trip he’s planning to Italy, where — with help from a string orchestra and a full choir — he’ll record an album’s worth of “my arrangements of ’60s Italian pop tunes, which should be fun.” He’ll also spend some time with composer Eyvind Kang for a collaborative classical choir piece.

That’s just the stuff he can remember off the top of his head. “You know, I always forget about some of the things I’ve done, because you do ‘em, and sometimes they don’t come out and … most of it’s almost like daily chores or something,” Patton explained. “You check it off your list and then it’s gone.”

And when your list’s as long as Mike’s, you can’t be expected to remember every little thing you’ve been involved with. Besides, the last four months of Patton’s life have been devoted exclusively to finishing the first of three Peeping Tom records in the works, which is due May 30.

“I’m overjoyed to finally have this out of my hair,” Patton said. “It’s almost cathartic for me — more than any other project I’ve had. These projects, they’re almost like problems. You have them on your work table and they’re really fun for a minute, and then you get sick of ‘em and you finish ‘em off and move on to something else. This one has lingered for a lot of different reasons.”

One of the reasons has been major-label trickery. “There were offers from major labels, and I made the grave error of entertaining some of those offers, and that cost me about a year of wining, dining, singing and dancing and ultimately, I was left holding my n–s,” he said. “And I deserved it. I should have known better.”

Plus, Patton recruited a laundry list of collaborators, sending tracks across the globe to have other artists add their personal touches. “It was a melee getting all this stuff back,” he said.

The initial 11-track Peeping Tom outing will feature a spate of underground and mainstream experimentalists, including Kid Koala; Odd Nosdam; Doseone and Jel of the Bay Area hip-hop collective Anticon; Dale Crover of the Melvins; Massive Attack; Gorillaz beat maestro Dan “The Automator” Nakamura; human beatbox Rahzel the Godfather of Noyze; Cypress Hill’s DJ Muggs; Amon Tobin; Brazilian chanteuse Bebel Gilberto; Brooklyn’s Dub Trio; DJ Disk of the Invisibl Skratch Piklz; and rapper Kool Keith.

“It’s very streamlined, very slick — it’s a groove record,” Patton said. “I used programmers and producers from the electronic world and the hip-hop world, in some cases. If there’s a sound to [the record], it leans into those worlds. There are simple structures. I’m singing, there’s lyrics — to me, it’s a pop record. It’s something I’d want to turn on the radio and hear.”

One of the album’s highlights, Patton said, is “Sucker,” which boasts the pipes of Norah Jones. “It’s a pretty vulgar song,” he said, laughing. “You don’t recruit someone like that unless you … I mean, I had something real specific in mind for her, and I wanted to take her out of her element and put her in a new environment and make it exciting, and she loved it. She did great. But yeah, you won’t recognize Norah. She’s cussing her ass off. It’s insane. She’s like a cruel vamp, and it’s super sexy, hot and, yeah, cruel.”

After Peeping Tom’s unveiling, Patton said he’ll reunite with Nakamura to begin work on the second Lovage record — the follow-up 2001’s lounge-flavored Music to Make Love to Your Old Lady By. He said there’s no word yet on whether Elysian Fields frontwoman Jennifer Charles would be reprising her role as the Cher to his Sonny, but discussions are ongoing.

And Tomahawk are in “go mode,” he added. “There are three or four tunes for the record that are done, and we’ll be in the studio by the end of the year. Most of the music’s based on old Native American motifs. It’s going to be a real quiet, strange record.”

— Chris Harris

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[paradigm shift]

Goed nieuws uit het secret chiefs 3 kamp! In onderstaand interview geeft Trey aan dat er gewerkt wordt aan het nieuwe SC3 album, en dat er drie albums uitkomen van de sub-bands (Ik hoop zelf op Holy Vehm, Forms en Ishraquiyun)

Freeform mayhem

By alexander varty

Publish Date: 5-Jan-2006

Book of Horizons, the fifth CD from California’s Secret Chiefs 3, is an enigmatic, shape-shifting survey of contemporary musical styles. Thrilling, visceral, and impossible to grasp in a single sitting, it encompasses Middle Eastern folk melodies, free improvisation, contemporary classical music, spaghetti-western soundtrack music, and the heaviest of heavy metal.

It’s hard to imagine that it’s the product of a single brain, but composer, multi-instrumentalist, and bandleader Trey Spruance says this kind of genre-hopping has fascinated him ever since he was a guitar-playing kid in his very first band.

“When I was 15, I was in a death-metal group, and we had this idea that we were going to play a bunch of ska tunes for a bunch of metalheads,” he recalls on the line from his Bay Area home. “We just had this idea, you know: ‘Okay, we’re going to play this ska music, and that’ll be amazing.’ Half of the audience hated us, but there was definitely a joy in confronting that wall between styles.”

Spruance laughingly dismisses his early exercise in perversity as a “juvenile expression” of his interest in mutant sound, but it’s worth noting that his beginner’s band was called Mr. Bungle. Fronted by the hyperactive, charismatic singer Mike Patton, that outfit soon went on to achieve cultlike status among listeners who liked their hardcore grind served up with a side order of theatrical chaos, and Spruance’s appetite for sonic excess has not diminished over time.

He has, however, found some ingenious ways to harness his somewhat manic energies. Book of Horizons, for instance, is being sold as a Secret Chiefs 3 record, but it’s really the product of six different bands: Forms, Ishraqiyun, Traditionalists, the Electromagnetic Azoth, the Holy Vehm, and Ur. Each has its own identity: Ishraqiyun, for instance, reflects Spruance’s interest in Persian, Afghan, and Iraqi music, while the Holy Vehm is an over-the-top continuance of his early fascination with all things loud and cryptic.

This sounds like a studio-only conceit, but Spruance swears that each subproject has its own independent existence, and adds that several will be releasing their own CDs soon. “We’re halfway through tracking three records for three of the bands,” he says, “as well as simultaneously working on the next Secret Chiefs record. Essentially, what’s happening is that the idea behind this band keeps on expanding.”

Given that on Book of Horizons he’s credited with playing rabab, saz, santur, cheng, bass, microtonal guitar, sitar guitar, electric guitar, acoustic guitar, organ, Clavinet, piano, electric piano, tack piano, sampler, various synthesizers, and a truckload of small percussion instruments, it’s clear that Spruance needs this many projects just to utilize his varied skills. Less immediately apparent, however, is how he plans to present this enormous spectrum of music when Secret Chiefs 3 headlines Richard’s on Richards on Sunday (January .

Spruance notes that on previous tours the Chiefs tended to play three different sets, in three different instrumental configurations. On this outing, however, he’s presenting a kind of greatest-hits overview, accompanied by a pared-down cast of the musicians who helped him make Book of Horizons.

“Basically, we’re doing cover versions of all of these different songs from these different bands, and doing them much more succinctly than we have in the past,” he says. “I didn’t want to half-way do the different-bands idea; it’s better to just go out there and play, at least until we can get it together to actually do the separate-band thing.”

He adds that although he’d need a 120-piece orchestra to realize all of his musical ideas, he’s going to explore as many of them as he can within the somewhat compressed format of his touring sextet, which includes noted improviser Eyvind Kang on viola, Timb Harris on violin and guitar, Shahzad Ismaily on bass, Jai Young Kim on keyboards and guitar, and occasional Tom Waits sideman Ches Smith on drums. How, exactly, they’re going to get from the filmic pomp of Ur’s Exodus-theme cover to the venom fountain that is the Holy Vehm’s “Exterminating Angel” is anyone’s guess, but Spruance is convinced that neither his accomplices nor his listeners will have much difficulty making the leap.

“I just feel that stylistic restrictions are irrelevant, and they’ve always been irrelevant,” he says. “But at the same time the differences between things are what is beautiful. So you might rebel against being put into a box as a musician and want to break out of that, but at the same time there’s nothing better than trying to really understand how something as specific as, say, Persian music works.

“I’m also angered by how little of themselves or their consciousness musicians are putting into their music,” he continues. “And I’m not just talking about all those bad punk-rock bands, although I don’t accept that as a valid expression of anything. You have to put something very deeply connected to yourself into your music or else it’s not really working—unless it’s just for fun, and then it’s fine.”

Spruance, at least, has found a way to put all of himself into his music and have fun. Although he’s interested in the occult aspects of music, in the way that it can be a vehicle for healing, revelation, or communion with the infinite, he’s still that ska-crazed teen punk at heart—and, in his world, anything goes.

“I’ve stopped caring about what time signature anything is in or what key it’s in, and I’m really happy about that,” he says. “It’s like genres: you don’t really need to think about them so much. Music doesn’t have to be like that. You do have to learn these things; it’s important that you understand how the different kinds of feelings that you want to express will affect how you create your music. But getting to the point where you can let go of all the theory is great.”

Secret Chiefs 3 plays Richard’s on Richards on Sunday (January .

[Kriestof]

Yep, dat is m. Die gozer heeft verder n zo mogelijk nog bredere smaak dan mij.

niet moeilijk, jij vindt alles saai en muzikaal niet interessant

ziekelijke doom, nyhc, techno, kraftwerk, psychobilly, kerkkoormuziek,..

wedden dat jij daar allemaal niet naar luistert?

[Fusion]

niet moeilijk, jij vindt alles saai en muzikaal niet interessant

Nee Kristof, ik vind alles waar jij lyrisch over bent saai en muzikaal niet interessant.

ziekelijke doom, nyhc, techno, kraftwerk, psychobilly, kerkkoormuziek,..

Ik luister bijvoorbeeld naar Yob, Biohazard, Propellerheadz, Kraftwerk, Chemical Brothers en diverse kerkkoren. Psychobilly hoorde ik een jaar of 10 geleden veel, maar heeft me nooit zo kunnen bekoren nee.

[Fusion]

En ik kan niet wachten op Peeping Tom! En ook niet op de 2e Lovage!!

[paradigm shift]

Zeker, heb pas het een en ander gedownload van Lovage, funky shit! En vergeet vooral ook de nieuwe tomahawk niet!

[Fusion]

Ik heb Lovage op CD uiteraard. En ik ben benieuwd naar Tomahawk!

[Emmaneul]

Lovage is supergaaf.

[Nakur]

I.E.M

Psychedelische, trippy en soms jazzy ambient van Steven Wilson. Aanrader!

[paradigm shift]

Goed nieuws voor de Patton-fans: het debuut van Peeping Tom is (eindelijk) onderweg, en er zit ook een nieuwe tomahawk in de pijpleiding
Hier een interessant artikeltje:

Norah Jones Curses Up A Storm For New Mike Patton Project

Songstress is one of many guests on ex-Faith No More singer’s pop album.

Even though he’s slowed down in his golden years, James Brown will always be known as the hardest working man in show business. And while Mike Patton’s not exactly gunning for the infamous nickname, he’s definitely been giving Brown a run for his money.

Patton — of Faith No More, Fantômas, Tomahawk and about 30 other deranged and wondrous projects — has to work. It’s what he does. In addition to running his Ipecac Records label, the anti-rock-star rock star’s been putting the finishing touches on the self-titled debut from Peeping Tom, his four-years-in-the-making, long-overdue multi-genre pop masterpiece.

Oh, and he’s also tracking vocals for three tunes that’ll appear on Massive Attack’s forthcoming seventh album, Weather Underground. The one song he’s finished thus far for the trip-hoppers “is like a really slow, dirty ballad with mostly acoustic guitar,” he said.

Plus he’s composing soundtracks for two films (one being friend Melanie Lee’s “Pinion”), he recently lent his voice box to the in-development PlayStation 3 game “The Darkness,” and he’s been writing material for the next Tomahawk LP.

And then there’s that trip he’s planning to Italy, where — with help from a string orchestra and a full choir — he’ll record an album’s worth of “my arrangements of ’60s Italian pop tunes, which should be fun.” He’ll also spend some time with composer Eyvind Kang for a collaborative classical choir piece.

That’s just the stuff he can remember off the top of his head. “You know, I always forget about some of the things I’ve done, because you do ‘em, and sometimes they don’t come out and … most of it’s almost like daily chores or something,” Patton explained. “You check it off your list and then it’s gone.”

And when your list’s as long as Mike’s, you can’t be expected to remember every little thing you’ve been involved with. Besides, the last four months of Patton’s life have been devoted exclusively to finishing the first of three Peeping Tom records in the works, which is due May 30.

“I’m overjoyed to finally have this out of my hair,” Patton said. “It’s almost cathartic for me — more than any other project I’ve had. These projects, they’re almost like problems. You have them on your work table and they’re really fun for a minute, and then you get sick of ‘em and you finish ‘em off and move on to something else. This one has lingered for a lot of different reasons.”

One of the reasons has been major-label trickery. “There were offers from major labels, and I made the grave error of entertaining some of those offers, and that cost me about a year of wining, dining, singing and dancing and ultimately, I was left holding my n–s,” he said. “And I deserved it. I should have known better.”

Plus, Patton recruited a laundry list of collaborators, sending tracks across the globe to have other artists add their personal touches. “It was a melee getting all this stuff back,” he said.

The initial 11-track Peeping Tom outing will feature a spate of underground and mainstream experimentalists, including Kid Koala; Odd Nosdam; Doseone and Jel of the Bay Area hip-hop collective Anticon; Dale Crover of the Melvins; Massive Attack; Gorillaz beat maestro Dan “The Automator” Nakamura; human beatbox Rahzel the Godfather of Noyze; Cypress Hill’s DJ Muggs; Amon Tobin; Brazilian chanteuse Bebel Gilberto; Brooklyn’s Dub Trio; DJ Disk of the Invisibl Skratch Piklz; and rapper Kool Keith.

“It’s very streamlined, very slick — it’s a groove record,” Patton said. “I used programmers and producers from the electronic world and the hip-hop world, in some cases. If there’s a sound to [the record], it leans into those worlds. There are simple structures. I’m singing, there’s lyrics — to me, it’s a pop record. It’s something I’d want to turn on the radio and hear.”

One of the album’s highlights, Patton said, is “Sucker,” which boasts the pipes of Norah Jones. “It’s a pretty vulgar song,” he said, laughing. “You don’t recruit someone like that unless you … I mean, I had something real specific in mind for her, and I wanted to take her out of her element and put her in a new environment and make it exciting, and she loved it. She did great. But yeah, you won’t recognize Norah. She’s cussing her ass off. It’s insane. She’s like a cruel vamp, and it’s super sexy, hot and, yeah, cruel.”

After Peeping Tom’s unveiling, Patton said he’ll reunite with Nakamura to begin work on the second Lovage record — the follow-up 2001’s lounge-flavored Music to Make Love to Your Old Lady By. He said there’s no word yet on whether Elysian Fields frontwoman Jennifer Charles would be reprising her role as the Cher to his Sonny, but discussions are ongoing.

And Tomahawk are in “go mode,” he added. “There are three or four tunes for the record that are done, and we’ll be in the studio by the end of the year. Most of the music’s based on old Native American motifs. It’s going to be a real quiet, strange record.”

— Chris Harris

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Ik ben m nu aan het luisteren, en t is echt geweldig! Ergens tussen Lovage en California in. lala, pm, torrent...