Sólstafir
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Een Sólstafir topic uit 2003, het moet niet gekker worden! Ondertussen is er veel gebeurd met deze band, maar dat hoef ik hier vast niet te gaan vertellen. Wat wel goed nieuws is is dat de nieuwe plaat Ótta te streamen is via http://3voor12.vpro.nl/luisterpaal/albu ... tafir.html. Ik heb hem nog niet gehoord, maar denk dat dit wel weer jaarlijstjesmateriaal is. Alles vanaf Masterpiece Of Bitterness is goud bij deze gasten.
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Voor mij zeker lijstwerkmateriaal. Prachtige, sfeervolle, emotionele postrock met folk-invloeden. Vooral de langste nummers zijn bij mij favoriet (opener, titelnummer, afsluiter).
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Destijds Köld gekocht, maar was er niet erg van onder de indruk. Toen een keer live op Paganfest gezien, en dat vond ik toen wel gaaf. Toen Köld weer eens opgezet en ja, daar staan toch best mooie nummers op. Ook al wat nieuwe nummers gehoord en ik denk ook wel dat ik later dit jaar naar het optreden in de Baroeg ga.
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DaKonium schreef:noise is kut.
Alexus schreef:klinkt wel redelijk, beetje weinig bas naar mijn zin
Nu gaat de zin meer kloppen, me dunkt ^^Dufniall schreef:[...]
Alles vanaf Masterpiece Of Bitterness is goud bij deze gasten.
Live zeer goed, gaat het allen zeker bekijken! Heerlijke band! Ik ben erg benieuwd naar de nieuwe, nog geen tijd voor gehad helaas.
Ik ben hier gewoon.
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Het eerste nummer is prachtig! Het is niet echt mijn smaak meer, veel en veel te soft geworden.
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Ja, dat was op Svartir Sandar toch ook al redelijk zo? Het titelnummer is in ieder geval ook gruwelijk smakelijk.
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Geweldig album. Er moet wel iets heel spectaculairs komen, wil Ótta niet de koppositie van mijn jaarlijst in gaan nemen.
Ik heb er nog een review over geschreven, maar dat zal ik hier niet linken.
Ik heb er nog een review over geschreven, maar dat zal ik hier niet linken.
Ik denk dat ik allergisch ben voor leer... ik heb altijd zo'n koppijn als ik wakker word met m'n schoenen nog aan
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Het nummer Ótta is weer puur goud! Nu de plaat op de kop tikken. Zin in Solstafir live in de Baroeg.
Allemaal even normaal doen tegen djent
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Ze zullen ook op Roadburn komen.
Ik denk dat ik allergisch ben voor leer... ik heb altijd zo'n koppijn als ik wakker word met m'n schoenen nog aan
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Ik ga ze nog wel in de Baroeg zien. Heb er geen enkel album van, maar ik heb het idee dat dit een typische band is die je vooral in een klein, zweterig hol moet meemaken. Op Into The Grave was het gaaf, maar overduidelijk niet helemaal geschikt zo'n soort podium, dat viel me bij de show op Rock Hard ook al op.
Voorts ben ik van mening dat het fenomeen influencer vernietigd moet worden.Strijdkreet schreef:Als ik lennert denk, denk ik Van damme hoofd.
Dus als ik Van damme op tv zie denk ik. "Stik, daar heb je lennert.... oh wacht...."
:' )
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Ja lijkt mij ook. Ze moeten eigenlijk allemaal tafeltjes en oude lullen fauteuilles neerzetten en whisky en sigaren verkopen.Lennert schreef:Ik ga ze nog wel in de Baroeg zien. Heb er geen enkel album van, maar ik heb het idee dat dit een typische band is die je vooral in een klein, zweterig hol moet meemaken. Op Into The Grave was het gaaf, maar overduidelijk niet helemaal geschikt zo'n soort podium, dat viel me bij de show op Rock Hard ook al op.
Allemaal even normaal doen tegen djent
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Goddomme wat een nummer:
Fijn om te zien dat ik mijn opmerkingen na een paar bier steeds herhaal...
Fijn om te zien dat ik mijn opmerkingen na een paar bier steeds herhaal...
Allemaal even normaal doen tegen djent
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Het enige wat ik blijf horen is die valse kraai, ernstig vervelend is dat.
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Nieuwe plaat is dan wel een stuk rustiger dan de vorige platen, al was Svartir Sandar ook al niet heel stevig, maar is toch ook wel heel erg mooi. Bevalt me zeker en vast stukken beter dan Svartir Sandar.
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Grappig, ik vind Svartir Sandar tot op heden hun beste werkstuk. Jammer dat Otta weer een stukje rustiger is, maar zolang ze muziek zo meeslepend blijven maken als ze nu al een plaat of vier doen hoor je mij niet klagen. Jaarlijstmateriaal, dat Otta!
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Nieuwe clip, ook aangenaam, mooi die blik ook van de zanger als z'n piano in de hens staat. Ongelooflijk nummer.
Alleen waarom de rode Jeep met een hamer en sikkel? Ja, hij is Russisch, maar waarom dat teken?
Alleen waarom de rode Jeep met een hamer en sikkel? Ja, hij is Russisch, maar waarom dat teken?
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Ik ga denk ik voor Otta. Heerlijk album! Deze plaat roept ontzettend veel sfeer op.
Die hamer en sikkel jeep past wel lekker bij je niet zo tevreden zijn, weinig hebben en weg met de overvoed front . En hij werkt nog best zo te zien.
Die hamer en sikkel jeep past wel lekker bij je niet zo tevreden zijn, weinig hebben en weg met de overvoed front . En hij werkt nog best zo te zien.
Allemaal even normaal doen tegen djent
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Best grappig om al die landschappen in hun clips te zien en dan te denken: Hey, daar ben ook geweest!
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Hahah ik krijg juist het idee van dat ik er echt eens heen moet!
Ik kan nu na wat uurtjes met een gerust hart zeggen dat het wel heel gek moet lopen als er een betere plaat uitkomt dit jaar.
Ik kan nu na wat uurtjes met een gerust hart zeggen dat het wel heel gek moet lopen als er een betere plaat uitkomt dit jaar.
Allemaal even normaal doen tegen djent
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Faustian Spirit of the Earth
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Wow, dat was vrij naar.
Voorts ben ik van mening dat het fenomeen influencer vernietigd moet worden.Strijdkreet schreef:Als ik lennert denk, denk ik Van damme hoofd.
Dus als ik Van damme op tv zie denk ik. "Stik, daar heb je lennert.... oh wacht...."
:' )
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Dat is niet mis zeg. Bizar ook eigenlijk dat je zelf niets overhoudt aan je eigen werk. Dit gaat waarschijnlijk niet meer goed komen, maar ik hoop wel dat ze die gast de nodige credits en financiële steun geven, want dit verdient gewoon niemand.
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tl;dr is dat de drummer compleet zonder pardon de band is uitgemieterd en dat de rest van de band de rechten op alles probeert op te eisen. Doet me denken aan dat gedoe met Negura Bunget. Wat een drama.
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Reactie van de band op hun Facebook:
It is with great pain but quiet respect, that we are making this official statement to inform you that for personal reasons beyond reconciliation, Sólstafir and Guðmundur "Gummi" Óli Palmasson have parted ways indefinitely.
There are always two sides to every story. No one knows the whole story other than those directly involved. As is the case in any relationship, all parties play their roles in creating and ending it. Both parties have their versions, and often at times, the point gets lost along the way, buried in emotions.
The bottom line is, Guðmundur is no longer in the band, because of a deep personal conflict that involves all three remaining members and cannot be solved. He is well aware of this.
The decision to part ways was absolutely not something that happened overnight, and we are genuinely pained by the way things have turned out. If the three of us had felt there was any way of mending the damage and moving forward with Guðmundur, then of course we would have - and we did make genuine efforts to do so. That is the reason for our silence. Waiting so long to make a statement was wrong on our part, and for that, we apologize. There are so many personal levels to this split. It has been very difficult to find the words while still respecting our individual privacy, Guðmundur's included.
Despite what we have read that appears to have been written in anger, bitterness, and seemingly spite, we continue to hold no ill will toward Guðmundur and sincerely want to thank him for all of his hard work and being such a huge part of the band for all these years. We acknowledge this fact every day and of course, he will receive his fair share. There was never any intention not to do this. We will never forget his role in Sólstafir, which is why we remain silent about the reasons now and in the future. We can only hope you respect and understand this.
Sólstafir will continue as a three piece with a session percussionist, just as we have since January of this year. We hope to see you all on the road and can only ask for your continued support.
With much love and respect,
Sólstafir
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Dan moet er wel iets ergs gebeuren als het op deze manier gaat. Jammer in ieder geval.
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Ja, dat is er ook. Laten we zeggen dat er in de relationele sfeer wat voorgevallen is...
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Satyr schreef:Ja, dat is er ook. Laten we zeggen dat er in de relationele sfeer wat voorgevallen is...
Klopt inderdaad.
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05 April 1963 - 15 December 1996
Dawn Crosby (R.I.P.)
05 April 1963 - 15 December 1996
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... Ja, zover was ik ook. Maar jullie doen alsof jullie weten WAT precies. Doe niet zo geheimzinnig joh~!
Ik ben hier gewoon.
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Nou ja, de band maakt het niet openbaar en ik (en Marcel neem ik aan ook) heb een bron die liever niet heeft dat het letterlijk staat. De hint was toch wel duidelijk?
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Zo kun je het ook zeggen ja, iemand heeft de verkeerde fiets gepaktKrimhild schreef:Relationele sfeer. Okeee, op die fiets.
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De zaken escaleren verder:
Sólstafir - Former Drummer Responds, To Take Legal Action
Guðmundur Óli Pálmason, ex-drummer of Sólstafir, has released a second statement, which can be read in full below. This statement follows a previous one, which also can be read here where he announced he was kicked out of the band. Now he has responded to the official statement released by the band last month where not much was said regarding the details of his departure. It seems that we are going to see some legal battles in the Köld north as Guðmundur Óli Pálmason is preparing to take this matter to court.
The statement reads as follows: "It has now been over a month since I posted a statement about my forced absence from Sólstafir on the internet. A statement I held back for almost half a year in hope that things could be resolved. It has also been over a month since Erin Lynch, the band's manager, wrote and posted a counter statement (she even misspelled my name) from her home in Stockholm accusing me of writing my statement out of spite, and stating that I would indeed 'receive (my) fair share. There was never any intention not to do this'. This is in stark contrast with the only official communication that the band has bothered to have with me through their lawyer, in a letter where they say that I am not entitled to any payments after I 'left' the band on 19th January. Now I will always get royalties for radio play and albums sold from from the label. This has nothing to do with the band but goes through STEF, GEMA and other such music copyright institutes, but this is peenuts. The band is and has been selling merchandise for tens of thousands of euros each tour. This includes merchandise that I personally designed and cds and vinyl the band has gotten from the label, which is then deducted from all our royalties, mine too, as far as I know.
"Erin's statement is a textbook example of passive aggression, stating that 'Guðmundur is no longer in the band, because of a deep personal conflict that involves all three remaining members and cannot be solved. He is well aware of this.' What I am well aware of and what I am not well aware of is irreverent. Here she tries to blow sand in your eyes and make it sound like I am well aware of what actions supposidly caused this rift between us, and that it is my fault. This is simply not true. There was no deep personal conflict that I was aware of until after I got that email on 19th January. And she continues, writing as if she's a member of the band: 'If the three of us had felt there was any way of mending the damage and moving forward with Guðmundur, then of course we would have - and we did make genuine efforts to do so.' Again, this is not true. The band made NO effort of mending the damage. In fact Aðalbjörn's response to my pleads to work things out was that we all needed space, distance and silence and to end all communication. In other words he simply wanted to sweep all the shit under the carpet and not even talk about it.
"While my offer to the band to settle things out of court, dated 13th may 2015 has still gone unanswered, the only 'communication' the band has had with me or persons related to me has been one email from their lawyer dated 16th June, and another dated 25th June saying they would react to my offer that week representative. They still haven't reacted. The only other communication was Svavar Austmann Trasusason sending some rather nasty messages to my mother through Facebook. My parents are pensioners and some of the nicest people you'd ever meet. In fact they have lent me a substantial amount of money for legal fees, as I have been without an income since I was forced out of the band. There's no need for the band to drag them into this nasty business on a personal level like this.
"Svavar's message was full of lies and twisted bits of truth, and these aren't the only lies the band has been spreading about me. I have seen other messages that Svavar in particular has sent to people supporting me, and a Greek fan also told me that when he asked about me when the band played in Greece in February, he was told I was not touring with them because I was mentally ill. Now it's strange that the band, with no more education between them than primary school can diagnose me as mentally ill, seeing as I've seen a couple of psychiatrists after I was forced from the band and both of them said I only have depression but am handling things quite well given the circumstances. That said, the last half a year has been an enormous strain on me and those close to me, and the worst part of it all is loosing some friends who have decided to place their business relations with the remaining band above our friendship, even though they know the whole story and that I am not getting my fair share of that business. A rather hypocritical stand for an organization I've helped to promote as much as I can for a decade and who's motto could be translated into something like 'treat each other right'.
"I'd like to stress though that none of my friends who know the whole story have taken the band's side, except for their own business relations (like one of them put it 'I just have to think about myself'). So don't think for a minute that the band's silence is to protect me. On the contrary. I am no saint and I have made my mistakes, but I can account for all my actions and I know when to apologize when I've done wrong.
"I have done absolutely everything in my power to conclude this matter with an agreement between myself and my former bandmates but my patience has now ran out as more than half a year of trying has produced nothing but disrespectful silence from the band, except for the things I mentioned earlier. So I reluctantly inform you all that I have no choice but to take all these matters to court. The use of the name and brand of Sólstafir without my participation, unpaid share of sold merchandise, slander and possibly theft of equipment (after our last gig in Germany in late January we left our touring equipment there, as we were going to use the same driver on our upcoming European tour a few days later. As you know I was forced to not participate in the tour and my airline ticket cancelled without my knowledge. I have not seen my equipment since and my inquiry about it's whereabouts has gone unanswered by the band. I have though seen photos of their session drummer using my equipment). I also found out after all this started that Aðalbjörn had without my knowledge registered all our early songs as his compositions and his alone, despite the fact that we wrote all the songs together. So add that to the list of matters that will be dealt with in court.
"To all the fans I want to apologize for taking this course of action, I truly never wanted it to come to this, I truly didn't want to spoil your experience of the music and drag the name of Sólstafir through the mud. But I am not at the helm, I did not sail the ship into the cliffs of lawsuits, other people did that while I tried to steer it into calmer waters. Please remember this. Guðmundur Óli Pálmason."
Sólstafir - Former Drummer Responds, To Take Legal Action
Guðmundur Óli Pálmason, ex-drummer of Sólstafir, has released a second statement, which can be read in full below. This statement follows a previous one, which also can be read here where he announced he was kicked out of the band. Now he has responded to the official statement released by the band last month where not much was said regarding the details of his departure. It seems that we are going to see some legal battles in the Köld north as Guðmundur Óli Pálmason is preparing to take this matter to court.
The statement reads as follows: "It has now been over a month since I posted a statement about my forced absence from Sólstafir on the internet. A statement I held back for almost half a year in hope that things could be resolved. It has also been over a month since Erin Lynch, the band's manager, wrote and posted a counter statement (she even misspelled my name) from her home in Stockholm accusing me of writing my statement out of spite, and stating that I would indeed 'receive (my) fair share. There was never any intention not to do this'. This is in stark contrast with the only official communication that the band has bothered to have with me through their lawyer, in a letter where they say that I am not entitled to any payments after I 'left' the band on 19th January. Now I will always get royalties for radio play and albums sold from from the label. This has nothing to do with the band but goes through STEF, GEMA and other such music copyright institutes, but this is peenuts. The band is and has been selling merchandise for tens of thousands of euros each tour. This includes merchandise that I personally designed and cds and vinyl the band has gotten from the label, which is then deducted from all our royalties, mine too, as far as I know.
"Erin's statement is a textbook example of passive aggression, stating that 'Guðmundur is no longer in the band, because of a deep personal conflict that involves all three remaining members and cannot be solved. He is well aware of this.' What I am well aware of and what I am not well aware of is irreverent. Here she tries to blow sand in your eyes and make it sound like I am well aware of what actions supposidly caused this rift between us, and that it is my fault. This is simply not true. There was no deep personal conflict that I was aware of until after I got that email on 19th January. And she continues, writing as if she's a member of the band: 'If the three of us had felt there was any way of mending the damage and moving forward with Guðmundur, then of course we would have - and we did make genuine efforts to do so.' Again, this is not true. The band made NO effort of mending the damage. In fact Aðalbjörn's response to my pleads to work things out was that we all needed space, distance and silence and to end all communication. In other words he simply wanted to sweep all the shit under the carpet and not even talk about it.
"While my offer to the band to settle things out of court, dated 13th may 2015 has still gone unanswered, the only 'communication' the band has had with me or persons related to me has been one email from their lawyer dated 16th June, and another dated 25th June saying they would react to my offer that week representative. They still haven't reacted. The only other communication was Svavar Austmann Trasusason sending some rather nasty messages to my mother through Facebook. My parents are pensioners and some of the nicest people you'd ever meet. In fact they have lent me a substantial amount of money for legal fees, as I have been without an income since I was forced out of the band. There's no need for the band to drag them into this nasty business on a personal level like this.
"Svavar's message was full of lies and twisted bits of truth, and these aren't the only lies the band has been spreading about me. I have seen other messages that Svavar in particular has sent to people supporting me, and a Greek fan also told me that when he asked about me when the band played in Greece in February, he was told I was not touring with them because I was mentally ill. Now it's strange that the band, with no more education between them than primary school can diagnose me as mentally ill, seeing as I've seen a couple of psychiatrists after I was forced from the band and both of them said I only have depression but am handling things quite well given the circumstances. That said, the last half a year has been an enormous strain on me and those close to me, and the worst part of it all is loosing some friends who have decided to place their business relations with the remaining band above our friendship, even though they know the whole story and that I am not getting my fair share of that business. A rather hypocritical stand for an organization I've helped to promote as much as I can for a decade and who's motto could be translated into something like 'treat each other right'.
"I'd like to stress though that none of my friends who know the whole story have taken the band's side, except for their own business relations (like one of them put it 'I just have to think about myself'). So don't think for a minute that the band's silence is to protect me. On the contrary. I am no saint and I have made my mistakes, but I can account for all my actions and I know when to apologize when I've done wrong.
"I have done absolutely everything in my power to conclude this matter with an agreement between myself and my former bandmates but my patience has now ran out as more than half a year of trying has produced nothing but disrespectful silence from the band, except for the things I mentioned earlier. So I reluctantly inform you all that I have no choice but to take all these matters to court. The use of the name and brand of Sólstafir without my participation, unpaid share of sold merchandise, slander and possibly theft of equipment (after our last gig in Germany in late January we left our touring equipment there, as we were going to use the same driver on our upcoming European tour a few days later. As you know I was forced to not participate in the tour and my airline ticket cancelled without my knowledge. I have not seen my equipment since and my inquiry about it's whereabouts has gone unanswered by the band. I have though seen photos of their session drummer using my equipment). I also found out after all this started that Aðalbjörn had without my knowledge registered all our early songs as his compositions and his alone, despite the fact that we wrote all the songs together. So add that to the list of matters that will be dealt with in court.
"To all the fans I want to apologize for taking this course of action, I truly never wanted it to come to this, I truly didn't want to spoil your experience of the music and drag the name of Sólstafir through the mud. But I am not at the helm, I did not sail the ship into the cliffs of lawsuits, other people did that while I tried to steer it into calmer waters. Please remember this. Guðmundur Óli Pálmason."
We're particles in motion, we can't accept we've no control
Racing helpless through the aether, staring outward from the world
Racing helpless through the aether, staring outward from the world
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Ik ben hier gewoon.
- Hieronimus
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Poe. Wat een gedoe. Ik zet Köld straks nog wel even op.
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- Krimhild
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Re: Sólstafir
Zonder Köld geen warmte.
Als die Óli Pálmason echt op iemand anders z'n fiets is gesprongen dan kan ie wel verdraaid goed doen alsof dat niet zo is, trouwens.
Wedden dat ze over 3 jaar weer samenkomen?
Ik ben hier gewoon.
- Hieronimus
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Speciale reünie! En dan Köld gewoon integraal spelen, stelletje labbekakken.
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- Krimhild
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Hahaha =;')
Ik denk dat ze dan zeggen: Toedeledokie! (Tenzij je die column van Sheila niet hebt gelezen).
Ik denk dat ze dan zeggen: Toedeledokie! (Tenzij je die column van Sheila niet hebt gelezen).
Ik ben hier gewoon.
- Hieronimus
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Als ik een fiets steel, wat betekent dat in deze context?
The incorrigible wheel tilts at a grotesque angle
- Krimhild
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Hugo, jij was toch ook in staat Ellie's grappen te snappen? Wat gaat er hier dan precies mis?
Ik ben hier gewoon.
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Ik refereerde hier naar.Satyr schreef:Zo kun je het ook zeggen ja, iemand heeft de verkeerde fiets gepaktKrimhild schreef:Relationele sfeer. Okeee, op die fiets.
The incorrigible wheel tilts at a grotesque angle