Immortal

[KoenM]

Mooi is dat he. Eigenlijk is het superdebiel, maar heel veel mensen die voor de rest weinig black metal luisteren (waaronder ik) zijn ervan gecharmeerd.

[Assault]

Ja inderdaad, de muziek is dan ook iets toegangelijker in vergelijking met andere BM bans zoals Burzum.

Teminste zo is het bij mij. Denk dat het komt door de thrash riffs

[Vinter_Ulv]

De clip van Blashyrk mighty raven dark is ook al zo geinig. Abbath pleurt er bijna van een rots af terwijl hij druk bezig is met true te zijn.

is dat niet die clip waarin hij over de berg huppelt?

in grim and frostbitten kingdoms zijn het net een stel kleine kinderen
nee, ik wil voor de camera
nee, ik!

[Assault]

[..]


is dat niet die clip waarin hij over de berg huppelt?

in grim and frostbitten kingdoms zijn het net een stel kleine kinderen
nee, ik wil voor de camera
nee, ik!

Ja, daar staan ze inderdaad op de bergen te grim en necro te doen

In vergelijking met call of the wintermoon ziet hij er een stuk beter uit

[Krijst]

[..]


Ja, daar staan ze inderdaad op de bergen te grim en necro te doen

In vergelijking met call of the wintermoon ziet hij er een stuk beter uit

Bovendien loopt het beeld en het geluid verre van synchroon.
Toch is ie gaaf. Ik wil ook met zo'n gitaartje, met een beschilderd gezichtje een blashyrkh-deuntje door de bergen heen springen!

[Dennus]

Mooi is dat he. Eigenlijk is het superdebiel, maar heel veel mensen die voor de rest weinig black metal luisteren (waaronder ik) zijn ervan gecharmeerd.

Eén van de meest geniale video's ooit.

[arnibes]

http://spolmask.net/mp3/Immortal%20-%20 ... ermoon.mpg

hier staat ie op. domme video als zeg ik het zelf

Ik lach me hier helemaal de pleuris. Tering.

[Zagato]

http://spolmask.net/mp3/Immortal%20-%20 ... ermoon.mpg

hier staat ie op. domme video als zeg ik het zelf

Wat een geniale clip, 'the clip that endeth all clipeths' (of zo iets)

LOL

[IROn]

[..]


Ik lach me hier helemaal de pleuris. Tering.

Je past er zo tussen met je avatar.

[KoenM]

[..]


Je past er zo tussen met je avatar.

Ha-ha.

Vervelende HM truiaard.

[KoenM]

I'm a demoooon. A demon with a shadowed faace.

[Geheim_502]

Heh heh..het lijkt ook wel of ze tikkertje of verstoppertje spelen. Maar dan om een Necro en very grim achtige manier.

En volgens mij komt die punt hoed en cape uit de lokale carnavals winkel ofzow.

Ik denk dat de eerste paar Albums van Immortal zoals Diabolical Fullmoon Mysticum, Pure Holocaust en Battles in the North minder toegangkelijk zijn dan hun latere albums. Al met al vind ik alle Albums van Immortal wel puik.

Immortal was inderdaad 1 van de eerste bands die Black Metal ging maken. Maar...waren de de echte uitvinders van de Black Metal niet Venom? En heeft Mayhem niet als eerste Black Metal weer een nieuw leven in geblazen. Toen Mayhem begon met de Black Metal waren de leden van Immortal nog Death metal aan het maken. Onder andere in de band Old Funeral.

[Zagato]

Het is wel een beetje off-topic maar door de clip voor 'Call...' en '..raven dark' moest ik er steeds aan denken. De liefhebbers van 'true' en 'norwegian' moeten eens de film 'When the Raven Flies' checken, een hele goede film die in Noorwegen in de tijd van de vikingen afspeelt. Ik ben hem nog nooit op DVD tegengekomen maar hij is echt de moeite waard!

[the true Thorko]

Het is wel een beetje off-topic maar door de clip voor 'Call...' en '..raven dark' moest ik er steeds aan denken. De liefhebbers van 'true' en 'norwegian' moeten eens de film 'When the Raven Flies' checken, een hele goede film die in Noorwegen in de tijd van de vikingen afspeelt. Ik ben hem nog nooit op DVD tegengekomen maar hij is echt de moeite waard!

Zit er corpsepaint en gitaren in?

[Zagato]

[..]

Zit er corpsepaint en gitaren in?

Nee, maar er wordt wel gehurkt, grim gekeken en door bossen gerend dus dat zit wel snor....

[the true Thorko]

[..]


Nee, maar er wordt wel gehurkt, grim gekeken en door bossen gerend dus dat zit wel snor....

Hebben!

[sanguis]

hahaha nieuwe film: kabouter Grimm ende cornuiten .

Maar ondanks de grappige clips, hebben ze wel bere goeie muziek gemaakt.

[ketter]

Ik denk dat de eerste paar Albums van Immortal zoals Diabolical Fullmoon Mysticum, Pure Holocaust en Battles in the North minder toegangkelijk zijn dan hun latere albums. Al met al vind ik alle Albums van Immortal wel puik.

Ikzelf vind "Pure Holocaust" een stuk toegankelijker dan bijvoorbeeld "Sons of Northern Darkness" of "Damned in Black".

[Elessar]

Die video. Ik lach me het lazerus! Vooral dat stukje waarop hij naar boven staart en zn tong uitsteekt En die punthoed! Geniaal!

[Hieronimus]

http://spolmask.net/mp3/Immortal%20-%20 ... ermoon.mpg

hier staat ie op. domme video als zeg ik het zelf

WHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[IROn]

[..]


Ha-ha.

Vervelende HM truiaard.

arnibes zelf niet dan? Maar goed, ik zal ophouden met flauwe grappen.

[impaled succubus]

http://spolmask.net/mp3/Immortal%20-%20 ... ermoon.mpg

hier staat ie op. domme video als zeg ik het zelf

Geniale poep dit.

Misschien nog wel erger dan die clip van Maniac Butcher. Alhoewel; Die is zo bedroevend dat je zowat bevangen wordt door plaatsvervangend schaamtegevoel, dit is aardig lachwekkend.
Wel een mooie omgeving btw.

[arnibes]

[..]


arnibes zelf niet dan? Maar goed, ik zal ophouden met flauwe grappen.

Ik ben geen HM Truiaard

[Oak]

Heb die clip van Call of Wintermoon maar eens gedownload.
Volgens mij hebben die gasten de dikste schik gehad tijdens het maken van deze clip.

[Sandr]

[..]
Geniale poep dit.

Misschien nog wel erger dan die clip van Maniac Butcher. Alhoewel; Die is zo bedroevend dat je zowat bevangen wordt door plaatsvervangend schaamtegevoel, dit is aardig lachwekkend.
Wel een mooie omgeving btw.

die clip van Maniac Butcher is toch dat ze zitten te hannesen met stukken vlees en botten?

[impaled succubus]

[..]
die clip van Maniac Butcher is toch dat ze zitten te hannesen met stukken vlees en botten?

Ik heb er een gezien dat ze bij een kasteel/ruine tikkertje deden en dat die kerel met dat geniale kapsel airguitar speelde.

[Jesper]

Blizzard Beasts rost.

[Heidewolf]

Immortal is mijn lievelings bm band. Ze maken vrij toegankelijk bm en zo'n sfeer als die van diablolical fullmoon mysticysm vind ik veel grimmiger als die van een transylvanian hunger. Ze mogen dan wel lak hebben een aan true immago, maar gave muziek maken ze wel.

[Omina Mortis]

Ze mogen dan wel lak hebben een aan true immago

Die clips gezien?

[Max Peijn]

Haha die clips van Immortal zijn vet grappig. Vooral Call of the Wintermoon

[Geheim_502]

Ik hoor de laatste tijd ook weer geruchten over een Immortal Reuinie. Op de Immortal website staat niks. Kan iemand mij er toevallig meer over vertellen?

Zou het gaaf vinden als ze nog een xtje gaan optreden. Net zoals Emperor bijvoorbeeld.

[goddethroned]

heb ik ook ergens gehoord,zou inderdaad erg gaaf zijn

[goatworshipper]

ik hoop het niet, zulke dingen vind ik gewoon slecht.
een paar jaar kappen, en dan weer ff knaken vangen!

[KoenM]

ik hoop het niet, zulke dingen vind ik gewoon slecht.
een paar jaar kappen, en dan weer ff knaken vangen!

Jij hebt makkelijk lullen. Ik heb ze nog maar 1 X gezien en zou het best gaaf zijn ze nog een keer te zien.

Daarnaast komt dat gelul over integriteit etc. mij de strot uit. Godver, het gaat toch alleen om de muziek en of ik die gaaf vind.

[Heidewolf]

[..]


Die clips gezien?

Jah en ik hoop niet dat die serieus bedoeld zijn.

[FT]

Immortal is een geweldige band en zeker een van m'n favo-black-bands (als het latere werk nog black te noemen is tenminste). Heb zo ooit eens op Lowlands gezien. Geluid was super, het was fucking warm en die gasten speelden alsof het hun lust en leven was. Was echt super! Ook grappig dat Abbath de volgende opmerking maakt: "this goddamn sun is killing me"!! Hilarisch!

Eigenlijk vind ik elk album wel goed. Favoriete album is denk ik toch At the heart of winter. Vond het erg jammer dat ze na Sons of.. stopten.

[V]

Waarom zijn ze eigenlijk gestopt? Van Horgh weet ik dat ie nu bij Hypocrisy drumt, maar wat is er eigenlijk met Abbath gebeurd?

[AmnesJAn]

Waarom zijn ze eigenlijk gestopt? Van Horgh weet ik dat ie nu bij Hypocrisy drumt, maar wat is er eigenlijk met Abbath gebeurd?

Die speelt in een Motorhead coverband genaamd Bombers en schijnt nu een project genaam 'I' te hebben met Armagedda en wat lui van Gorgoroth ofzo.

[V]

Ok, dank je. Weet je ook waarom Immortal uit elkaar is gegaan?

[Geheim_502]

Immortal en met name Abbath had het idee niet verder te kunnen op muzikaal vlak. Ze zaten aan het plafond. Hij vond het tegen over zich zelf niet eerlijk om een nieuw album op te nemen waar hij zelf niet achterstond. Logisch lijkt me.

En wederom ben ik het weer met KoenM eens. Het draait om de Muziek. En volgens mij gaan Abbath en companen er helemaal voor als ze weer ergens optreden.

[V]

Bedankt geheim.

Ik heb Immortal twee keer live gezien, op Dynamo en in de Baroeg. Beide superstrakke optredens! Immortal is simpelweg een geweldige band, met Pure Holocaust, Battles in the North en At the the Heart of Winter als hoogtepunten.

[Geheim_502]

Ja. Daar was ik ook bij. En ik heb ze nog een keer gezien op Graspop en No Mercy waar ze een mooie show hadden. In De Baroeg was het toen stervens druk. Maar het was wel enorm gaaf!!!

[Heidewolf]

Ik zou immortal dolgraag nog eens live willen zien. Misschien dat Abbath nog een immortal nummertje live gaat spelen met dat project. Maar die kans acht ik klein.

[IROn]

Ik zou immortal dolgraag nog eens live willen zien. Misschien dat Abbath nog een immortal nummertje live gaat spelen met dat project. Maar die kans acht ik klein.

Zou nog best kunnen, aangezien niet elke nieuwe band direct genoeg materiaal heeft om een complete show mee te vullen...

Verder nog een oud interview met Abbath over het hoe en waarom van de split:

Abbath speaks about the Immortal split for the first and last time!
Interview with Abbath from "Scream" magazine (2003)

Friday 18th of July, the storm raged upon Blashyrkh again, unfortunately in a way most people would have avoided if possible: after many years as one of the world's leading black metal bands, Immortal detonated the bomb, stating that they had broke up the band immediately. Webpages worldwide reacted with disbelief and mourning messages left by horrified fans, and the press demanded some answers. However, the band refused to speak to anyone about the split, and addressed its short, official statement as the only necessary information as such.

During the last weekend of August, Abbath agrees to do one final interview, in order to satisfy people's need for more background information. The truth might be more unspectacular than expected, but it's nevertheless intense and honest enough to make you realize how important Abbath and Immortal have been during the last 13 years…

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Was the breakup spontaneous, or was it planned over a longer time span?

"No, it was not planned," says Abbath sipping on a few beers in his hometown of Bergen. We're warming up for tonight's festival show with a.o. Gorgoroth and Satyricon, and Abbath has agreed to shed some lights upon the breakup of the mighty Immortal: "Planning was actually not something we did a lot of in Immortal, but this is something that has been lurking in my subconsciousness for quite some time. I'm a spontaneous guy, and when something comes out, then it's for real. The guys in the band reacted quite positive to what I had to say," tells Abbath before he takes a little break.

"We had just played the Roskilde festival, and we were on our way to the Quart festival in Norway. Suddenly I just told the guys that I didn't want to go on any longer. The response I got from Horgh and Saroth was positive, so I guess they had been thinking about it for a while as well. We haven't discussed this a whole lot, but I have a feeling that they somehow expected this to happen. I guess this was the moment for one of two possibilities: either I had a plan for something new concerning the band, or that the band should be laid to rest."

Abbath is taking his time and is talking slowly, and while Iron Maiden's "Powerslave" provides the right atmosphere, he admits that he hasn't been able to write new Immortal music for a long time.

"I have been doing this band for thirteen years, and a lot of things have happened. But I have to move on, and finally I'm able to do that, without having to think about Immortal. I'm not planning to retire as a musician, quite the contrary - the music I'm making now is totally me and what I stand for," says Abbath enthusiastically, clearly enjoying the fact that he's able to make music again. "But I won't use my old surroundings - I'm a little alone in the dark right now, but that's a challenge as well, and time will tell what musicians I'll use, what producer and so on."

A question many people are asking, is why you chose to break up the band instantly; why not admit the need for a break, and then continue after a few years?

"Because there has never been a need for a break in this band! We're either doing it, or we're not! I have never considered doing a side project in addition to Immortal - I want to dedicate myself one hundred percent to what I'm doing, and I don't understand why people have such a need for side projects. To me, that's just a sign that they're not totally committed to what they're doing as a musician. I'm inspired by the music I listen to at home, and I have a quite diverse taste for music. Be it Motörhead or Iron Maiden - it's in me all the time, and the music I compose is a reflection of this. So why should I take a break from something and do something totally different on the side of that?"

Fair enough, but I still don't understand why you have broken up the band. Last year, you left Wacken in ruins with your performance, this year you wrecked Roskilde, Quart and Metal Mania, and you had a Norwegian tour coming up. So why the breakup now?

"Because I don't want to continue the band based upon the wrong reasons! If the glow is not there, it's impossible to continue - I won't give the audience a false product! And we're not breaking up because of money, cause money has never been a reason to do this anyway!"

So how was it to play the summer festivals this year?

"Well, we had already played Roskilde, and that was cool. We were on our way to the Quart festival when it happened, and maybe I could have said something earlier, but it didn't feel right until then!"

Have you got negative feedback from people after the breakup?

"No, I haven't, actually. Even the record company hasn't bothered us, hargh! Of course people in my neighborhood are asking questions, but that's cool. I don't have Internet at home, so I haven't paid any attention to message boards or stuff like that, but I think people understand that this is something natural, and that there has been no need to make any fuzz about it. After all, we were just Immortal, not Iron Maiden or Slayer! If those bands had called it a day, I could have understood that people had reacted."

But Immortal was important as well - the band was an essential connector between extreme and traditional metal!

"I guess we were important in the underground, and we quit on our peak of it. Maybe we could have gone a lot further, but we didn't see any point in continuing."

And for the record - there are no bad blood between the band members?

"Absolutely not!," Answers Abbath rapidly, before smiling his characteristically smile. And Saroth doesn't feel left out in the cold?

"No way! Saroth is his own master, and he has always shown respect and understanding for what the band was all about. When he joined, he really got his baptized in fire, with two months of touring straight. We went out with Hypocrisy for a month, and then to the States with Manowar. It was never any stress with him, he was really relaxed and cool. I think he enjoyed being a member of the band, and we certainly enjoyed having him with us. I'd like to think that he is happy for the time he got to spend within the band, and looking back, it's clear to me that he should have joined us a lot earlier. He's studying in Sweden now, and I wish him all possible success with his business."

The reason I'm asking, is because the official statement from the band, explaining the breakup, was signed "Abbath, Demonaz, Horgh". Why not Saroth, or Iscariah, for that sake?

"Because me and Demonaz started this band! Then Horgh joined and helped develop the band, so I think it's fair to say that me, Demonaz and Horgh were the creative force of the band. Both Saroth and Iscariah were important team players though."

Abbath explains that it hasn't been easy for any band member to keep up with him and Horgh, due to their special friendship and attitude towards Immortal. Being a member of Immortal has always been a struggle, but Saroth managed to keep up. Iscariah, who played on "Damned In Black" and "Sons Of Northern Darkness", didn't:

"Saroth found his spot in the band really quickly, and he was calm and enjoying it. Iscariah was always searching for more, and he wanted to be creative in a way that didn't fit within the boundaries of Immortal. He's constantly looking for something, and I'm sure that he one day will find that. He's a great player, and he has a good name in the industry, so that shouldn't be a problem at all," says Abbath, assuring me that he has a good relationship with all the ex-members of the band.

If you look back on thirteen years, seven studio albums and several tours - do you feel that you have accomplished what you wanted with Immortal?

"Yes and no. I have gained a lot of experience, and that is success in itself. But I feel that we have been facing obstacles all the way, always thinking what our next move should be. We have not become rock stars or millionaires, but we managed to find our own thing, both as humans and musicians. Myself, I have gained a balance with myself. I realize that life consists of ordeals and problems, but I have managed to create a life I can function in, due to the fact that I followed my own willpower. Immortal has been a heavy burden several times, and I didn't plan for Immortal not being a part of my future, but that's what happened. I have reached a crossroad, and the unthinkable happened: I realized that Immortal had to be put to rest, in order for me to start over."

"But hey - Lemmy was 30 when he founded Motörhead, so maybe I'm not so old and burnt out anyway!", Laughs Abbath, and even though he realizes that fans might not be too happy because of this decision, he's confident that this was the only right thing to do:

"The next chapter won't be the same as Immortal, but no matter what I'll be doing, it will be a change for the better for myself. I haven't managed to compose music for quite a while, but now I already have new material ready, and that's a good feeling."

Looking back to the time before the release of "Diabolical Fullmoon Mysticism" and the last show in front of 20.000 in Spain - how would you describe the development of the band?

"Immortal has never been an overnight sensation, but we managed to build something few thought was possible with this kind of music. We showed the world that we had something! As I said, there have been a lot of obstacles, and it has been a constant state of learning."

Sure, but you have had a lot of success as well. Was that expected?

"When Demonaz and myself founded the band, we we're thinking really big! I remember we were standing by the ruins of Lysekloster, and we had put on corpse paint. We had been drinking whisky and watching Venom videos, and we were going for large scale success! And in many ways, the band has been a success, 'cause we have experienced a lot. We love to play live, and Immortal was a live band, for sure. We have been our own mentors, and we followed our own thing from day one, we didn't follow any trends. So yeah, I guess we were expecting success from day one, but success based upon two young lads who had agreed to make some fucking great stuff, inspired by the music we loved ourselves. It was an exciting time, and even though it's fantastic to perform in front of 20.000 Spanians, that's still something completely different compared to the time me and Demonaz had in the early days, when no one knew who we were."

Looking back - is it annoying that you're still broke, while other people in the business made big money on Immortal?

"It's like that for almost every band out there! The business people are always making more money that the band itself. But without the industry, we wouldn't have gained anything - you need the business side of things. Still, we're not left with the impression that we got screwed by either Osmose or Nuclear Blast," says Abbath, before he jokingly adds, "or maybe we got screwed, it's just that we're too stupid to realize it, hargh! Money has come and gone, but this has never been a focus of mine. I have never let money and business aspects interfere with the music, but as we grew bigger as a band, these things became an obstacle as well. If the glow within the band had been bigger, I guess we could have dealt with that as well, but it became too much eventually. Too much discussion and negotiations with the management, and I guess this was the final drop that made me realize that it was about time to put the band to rest."

All that is past now. What will happen in the future?

"If my health stays all right, I'll continue doing what I have been doing, but with some new impulses. The music will be one hundred percent Abbath, but I have no idea when a complete album can be released. It will take some time, and I won't stress one second with it - time is not a question here. At the moment, it's important for me to practice some physical training, and being active. I work out a lot, and I have cut down on the drinking. Still, I don't think there's any point in quitting drinking totally right now, that would just make me more stressed," Abbath confirms honestly. He also treasures the fact that he has good friends: "It's good to be close to people I feel comfortable with. I'm a lone wolf, but even wolves need company, hargh!"

"Not playing live for several months is not something I'm looking forward to, cause I love to perform live, but I won't do it again until it feels right. If it's in front of 30 people or 30.000 - I don't care, but I have to be able to deliver a full package! The music I'm composing right now is mostly for myself, but I would be an idiot if I had said it was only for myself. Even Quorthon and Fenriz need to publish their music, hargh! It's not enough to listen to it alone and private - if you as a musician feel that you have something good, it should be brought to the people as well!"

Abbath hopes that Immortal fans won't be spending too much time thinking about the past, but rather be looking forward to future projects from himself and Horgh. The latter has already released the debut of Grimfist, and Abbath's project is really something to look forward to, rest assured!

But the big question remains, Abbath - is Immortal dead and buried forever?

"Well, one should never say never... But we hope that the band will live its own life through the albums and the songs, and the legacy of Immortal will still live on through our future projects."

Sure, but to a lot of people worldwide, the split was a tremendous chock. Is it totally out of the question to see you live at Wacken next year, if the figures on the check are correct?

"As I already said, it's not the money, and you know that! But if such a day will come, of course we want our share of it. But it can also take many years before we eventually does it, and then maybe the money side of it is long gone. But that's fine - somewhere in the future we might do something like that, but it will definitely not be in 2004!"

My only remaining question is why my ears didn't embrace Immortal earlier. I've listened to their music since the debut, but it wasn't until At The Heart Of Winter I realized what a treasure Immortal truly is. But that's another eternal truth: the truly great ones are discovered only when it's too late... THE MIGHT LIVES ON!!!

Dus.

[FT]

http://spolmask.net/mp3/Immortal%20-%20 ... ermoon.mpg

hier staat ie op. domme video als zeg ik het zelf

Het duurde even, maar ik heb 'm ook maar even bekeken....

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Hilarisch ende geniaal!! Veel beter dan Blashyrkh!! En dat stukje dat ze schuin naar rechtsboven langs de camera rennen lijkt verdacht veel op de bewegingen van de rennende Aragorn, Legolas en Gimli in de eertse verfilming (tekenfilm) van Lord of the Rings....misschien toeval, maar het lijkt er verdacht veel op.

[Alwin]

Stelletje gekken dat het zijn, ze hebben hun foto's in spiegelbeeld in het hoesje van Battles in the North.

[the true Thorko]

Stelletje gekken dat het zijn, ze hebben hun foto's in spiegelbeeld in het hoesje van Battles in the North.

Ah... lees ik daar 'B.C. Rich'?

[Alwin]

[..]

Ah... lees ik daar 'B.C. Rich'?

IN het hoesje, niet de cover.

[the true Thorko]

[..]

IN het hoesje, niet de cover.

Heb de digi-versie. Het zal wel; je zult niet de eerste zijn die het opmerkt, kom je leuk elf jaar te laat mee...

[Alwin]

[..]

Heb de digi-versie. Het zal wel; je zult niet de eerste zijn die het opmerkt, kom je leuk elf jaar te laat mee...

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