Cynic
Op zich wel maar wat zijn de bijbehorende kosten?Ernst schreef:Mwa, de line up van 2005 zie ik ze voor mij niet meer overtreffen hehe. Ben wel benieuwd wat er komt, maar iets als Cynic zou toch ook prima (misschien zelfs wel beter) op dat progpower fest passen?
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Heb ze liever in n club (zoals weer de Amsterdam Sleep-In Arena ), dan n festival. Ik haat metalfestivals, t bijbehorende publiek en ditto kutgeluid.
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Doornroosje in Nijmegen! Heb ik in ieder geval voor een aantal een slaapplek!Fusion schreef:Heb ze liever in n club (zoals weer de Amsterdam Sleep-In Arena ), dan n festival. Ik haat metalfestivals, t bijbehorende publiek en ditto kutgeluid.
Overigens om de zinloze Cynic verering nog meer inhoud te geven, wat is de favoriete setlist? Het hele 'Focus' album met een paar Portal nummers?
Wat te denken van een aantal nummers van 'Human' overgoten met een Cynic sausje?
Eén nummer mag absoluut niet ontbreken: 'Celestial Voyage'! Mijn favoriete Cynic nummer....
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Volgens mij las ik in één van de interviews met Paul of Sein dat Nederland ze goed bevallen is en ze zelf graag meerdere lokaties hier aandoen. Bij gebrek aan een Dynamo festival mogen ze wat mij betreft natuurlijk ook in het Dynamo gebouw spelen, hehe.
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Klopt! Ik ben het met Fusion eens dat je ze beter in zaal dan op een festival kan zien.Soulcollector schreef:Volgens mij las ik in één van de interviews met Paul of Sein dat Nederland ze goed bevallen is en ze zelf graag meerdere lokaties hier aandoen. Bij gebrek aan een Dynamo festival mogen ze wat mij betreft natuurlijk ook in het Dynamo gebouw spelen, hehe.
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Ja, of Psychotic Waltz of wat te denken van een Fates Warning reunie van de originele bezetting (en we dromen rustig verder!)Stillborn schreef:Doornroosje ja! En dan Atheist erbij, hoppa.
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Tja ik had het ook niet over 40.000 man of zo...Ernst schreef:Nee, omdat je dan een gigantische overlap van fans krijgt. Iets simpels als Motorhead zal immer meer volk trekken dan de technische godenzonen in de zware metalen bij elkaar....
Overigens, goed nieuws mag herhaald worden:
Long-defunct Florida-based band CYNIC, whose 1993 album "Focus" is regarded as a landmark release in the field of technical/progressive metal, has confirmed plans to embark a reunion tour in the spring/summer of 2007, beginning with possible U.S. warm-up performances and culminating in a number of festival appearances across Europe (as BLABBERMOUTH.NET first reported on Sept. 6).
CYNIC reunion lineup:
Paul Masvidal - Vocals / Guitar
Sean Reinert - Drums / Keys
Tony Teegarden - Vocals / Keyboards
Chris Kringel - Bass
Santiago Dobles – Guitar
Kringel, who replaces Sean Malone (who can't participate in the reunion because of teaching and work commitments) in CYNIC's reunion lineup, has been involved with the band since the pre-"Focus" days and toured with the band in Europe in support of the CD. He also played bass on the classic and much-sought-after PORTAL demos and toured the U.K. with Paul and Sean's AEON SPOKE project. Teegarden also previously toured with CYNIC in support of "Focus", while Santiago — who is said to be "the man behind AGHORA" — has been around the CYNIC camp since 1993-94 and was one of Masvidal's guitar students in Miami back in the day.
According to Masvidal, guitarist Jason Gobel was approached about participating in the reunion, but was forced to turn it down due to family and work commitments. However, he gave the rest of the group his blessings to proceed and is said to be "honored" to have Santiago as his replacement.
Prior to releasing "Focus" through Roadrunner Records, Paul and Sean played on the groundbreaking DEATH album "Human" alongside the band's mastermind Chuck Schuldiner and Steve DiGiorgio of SADUS. Masvidal and Reinert described their relationship with Chuck as "very laid back", and were able to help Schuldiner with the writing by giving him input, which had been missing on the earlier DEATH records. The result was a classic record, and DEATH even got some MTV airplay. At the same time, then-bassist Tony Choy was filling in for the late Roger Patterson on ATHEIST's "Unquestionable Presence", and guesting on PESTILENCE's "Testimony of the Ancients". Meanwhile, Paul did some work on MASTER's "On the Eighth Day, God Created Master", and guitarist Jason Gobel worked with MONSTROSITY, playing lead on their "Imperial Doom" album. All of this guest work helped to enlarge the fan base for CYNIC, making them — according to a Roadrunner Records press release issued prior to the release of "Focus" — "the most popular underground act to never record an album." More recently, Masvidal and Reinert — both of whom are currently based in Los Angeles — have been keeping busy with AEON SPOKE (web site), a progressive ethereal-rock project whose self-titled album is due in March 2007 through SPV Records.
For more information on the CYNIC reunion, visit the official web site at www.cynicalsphere.com. Booking, press and questions should be addressed to: cynicreunion@aeonspoke.com.
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Alles goed, Dynamo en Nijmegen en Amsterdam!
Nr. 6 van Focus (kut hoe heet die ook alweer) een van mijn favorieten!
Human erbij zou helemaal lachen zijn als toegift, of WTF doe alles maar uit eerbied voor Chuck.
Hmmmm kan niet wachten!
Nr. 6 van Focus (kut hoe heet die ook alweer) een van mijn favorieten!
Human erbij zou helemaal lachen zijn als toegift, of WTF doe alles maar uit eerbied voor Chuck.
Hmmmm kan niet wachten!
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"The moon is a planet just like the earth, only it is even deader."
"Water is composed of two gins, Oxygin and Hydrogin. Oxygin is pure gin. Hydrogin is gin and water."
"The moon is a planet just like the earth, only it is even deader."
"Water is composed of two gins, Oxygin and Hydrogin. Oxygin is pure gin. Hydrogin is gin and water."
Uroboric Forms?Davos schreef:Alles goed, Dynamo en Nijmegen en Amsterdam!
Nr. 6 van Focus (kut hoe heet die ook alweer) een van mijn favorieten!
Human erbij zou helemaal lachen zijn als toegift, of WTF doe alles maar uit eerbied voor Chuck.
Hmmmm kan niet wachten!
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Ik kan niet inschatten hoe belangrijk Jason Gobel was voor de Cynic sound. Het m.i. het belangrijkste dat Masvidal en Reinert erbij zijn!Tymon schreef:Ik blijf het erg jammer vinden dat Jason niet mee kan doen... is het toch net niet helemaal Cynic.
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Tja in principe zijn het gewoon vaste partijen dus maakt t niet uit wie ze speelt. Maar het gaat meer om het idee dat Jason voor ongeveer de helft verantwoordelijk was voor het schrijven van Cynic's muziek, hij is dus een groot deel van Cynic wat we niet gaan zien.Zagato schreef:[..]
Ik kan niet inschatten hoe belangrijk Jason Gobel was voor de Cynic sound. Het m.i. het belangrijkste dat Masvidal en Reinert erbij zijn!
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@Zagato: Uroboric Forms idd! Heerlijk!
Ongetwijfeld gaat mr. Newguy zich mega voorbereiden om te compenseren voor het niet Jason zijn. Dus live zal het vast wel goedkomen, voor nieuw werk (zou het?) is het wellicht nog afwachten...
Ongetwijfeld gaat mr. Newguy zich mega voorbereiden om te compenseren voor het niet Jason zijn. Dus live zal het vast wel goedkomen, voor nieuw werk (zou het?) is het wellicht nog afwachten...
The following are actual submissions on a series of quizzes, tests, and essays.
"The moon is a planet just like the earth, only it is even deader."
"Water is composed of two gins, Oxygin and Hydrogin. Oxygin is pure gin. Hydrogin is gin and water."
"The moon is a planet just like the earth, only it is even deader."
"Water is composed of two gins, Oxygin and Hydrogin. Oxygin is pure gin. Hydrogin is gin and water."
Het wordt gewoon gaaf ook als het dat niet is (ik kan me niet voorstellen dat ik een objectief oordeel ga vormen bij een Cynic optreden )
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Heb zojuist via de mail met de programmeur van Doornroosje gecorrespondeerd. Hij vind Cynic erg goed in de programmering passen....
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Hou me op de hoogte he! Als ik iets eerder weet, laat ik t ook onmiddelijk weten. Wil *niet* hebben dat iets uitverkocht is omdat ik te laat ben!
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Nee, dat zou echt waanzinnig @#$% zijn! Als ze in Nijmegen komen spelen koop ik sowieso een kaartje voor je Fusion....Fusion schreef:Hou me op de hoogte he! Als ik iets eerder weet, laat ik t ook onmiddelijk weten. Wil *niet* hebben dat iets uitverkocht is omdat ik te laat ben!
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OK, OK als ze in Nijmegen spelen koop ik sowieso 3 kaartjes.....Davos schreef:Hee Fusion & Zagato, I'm in!
YES PLEASE
Hapje en een drankje vooraf?
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Aangezien ik een extreme fanboy ben, is mijn planning om alle Cynic concerten in NL te gaan bezoeken dus dat aanbod neem ik graag aan!Fusion schreef:Gezwellie In Noord-Holland en contreien geldt de aanbieding andersom uiteraard ook.
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Nijmegen is nou ook weer niet zo heel ver weg hoor..sugar daddy schreef:Ik hoop toch dat ze iets dichter in de buurt van Zeeland spelen eigenlijk, maar als dat niet het geval is ga ik er zeker alles aan doen ze toch te zien.
Maargoed Eindhoven of Tilburg vind ik ook wel iets beter.
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Leuk nieuw interview met Paul:
http://www.antenna.nu/cynic/interview1.phpWith the news of the recent reforming of the Floridian extreme metallers Cynic, one of the real pioneers in death metal return. Alongside Atheist they were ahead of their time with their 1993 landmark release Focus, an effort that fertilized the ground for a new generation of progressive and experimental bands. In the light of the recent news I could not pass on the opportunity to ask guitarist Paul Masvidal about Cynic and of course their only album Focus.
What was it that finally put the reunion in motion?
A series of synchronicities. We knew it was time, but the decision wasn't really ours. We were simply responding to messages from the universe. We just surrendered and trusted in it.
The successful reunion of Atheist is that something that also helped fuel the idea of getting back?
A phone call from Kelly Shaefer of Atheist was one of the synchronicities. So indirectly, yes.
Obviously the missing presence of Shawn Malone and Jason Gobel is something that is bound to be questioned. Why are they not partaking in the reunion?
Malone can't participate because of teaching and work commitments. Jason can't because of family and work commitments.
You've teamed up with Tony Teegarden, Chris Kringel and Santiago Dobles. Chris have previously been involved with Cynic, but what about the other two?
Tony sang all the brutal vocals on Focus and also toured with us. Santiago was my guitar student in the early 90's. He's been a good friend and around us a long time. Sean also played drums on his first and most recent Aghora record.
Just like Atheist and to a degree also Nocturnus you were ahead of your time. In hindsight do you think people had difficulties understanding the music back then?
There were some that understood, but most people seemed a bit perplexed.
Focus is widely considered a landmark release. It still sound as fresh and pioneering today as it did in 1993. Back then did you have the feeling that you had made something out of the ordinary and with such durability?
I wasn't concerned with anything other than making a solid work. The results were not in our hands. We just created music and "focused" on the details. I'm grateful that the work has transcended time. It makes sense now that it has.
A song like "Uroboric Forms" has a few similarities with Death. Did it affect the music that you played a period with Chuck Schuldiner and Death?
On some level, I would imagine it was. Chuck was the pioneer of catchy death metal and I got to understand that style very intimately by playing with him for many years.
It must have been exciting being a part of the creative hotspot the Floridian death metal scene was back in the early nineties?
It was an incredible period. Amazing many memories and experiences. There really was a strong scene with many unique bands.
I can't recall having heard effects like those you used on Focus anywhere else, at least not before that release. How did you get the idea of applying effects to the guitars and vocals?
It all began as a dilemma that needed a solution. I knew the brutal vocals were not expansive enough for the music, and that something else would have to appear. Regular clean vocals were not going to do the trick. I wanted an otherworldly alien like voice that had an emotional quality to complement the music. When I discovered that sound, I knew it was right.
It sounds like you were influenced by all kinds of music. Which genres had the biggest impact on you?
Early on it was metal and then we got into jazz, fusion, pop, experimental, ambient, classical.
I've seen lots of different tags put on your music. Personally I would categorize it as progressive and experimental death metal, but that tag isn't even that accurate. What do you call it?
That's pretty good. Experimental progressive fusion rock/metal. Descriptions are difficult with Cynic. It had metal elements, but also other styles so a big vague word like rock seems to encompass all. Ultimately, I'm not sure what to call it either.
Why did the band disband after doing only the Focus record?
We didn't disband after Focus. We parted ways with Malone and began writing new material with Chris on bass. We then added Aruna on vocals and morphed into Portal. We decided the new material was too different from Focus to continue as Cynic, so we changed our name. We disbanded after Portal due to a combination of music business troubles and personal changes.
With the renewed interest for Cynic is there a possibility of the early demos as well as the much-sought-after Portal demo being released on CD, just like it has been done with the Massacre and Nocturnus demos?
Yes, possibly.
With Cynic back in action would it be complete utopia to expect a successor to Focus if this reunion turns out to be a success?
If we do another progressive record in the vein of Cynic, we will probably give the project a different name.
How does the remainder of 2006 look for your concern?
Good. Busy and disciplined. 2007 will be a lot of touring for Cynic and Aeon Spoke.
Anything you wish to add to conclude this interview?
Thank you Per, for the interview and to those who took the time to read it. Also thanks to the Cynic / Aeon Spoke fans for the ongoing support. Please visit www.cynicalsphere.com and also www.aeonspoke.com for news and updates. Come see us live in 2007!
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En nog een brokje nieuws van Blabbermouth:
Said Reinert: "As most [people] know by now, CYNIC is reuniting for live shows in 2007. It seems after many years in slumber the mighty dragon has awakened. It is going to be such a pleasure to play that material live again. The fan response has been absolutely overwhelming! (Keep it up!!!!) We are sorting through the show requests and will be [announcing] live dates as soon as we have them confirmed. (Anyone with show offers should send them to: cynicreunion@aeonspoke.com.). We are also working on getting merchandise that includes T-shirts/tats/pullovers as well as a live DVD with bonus footage."
Kringel, who replaces Sean Malone (who can't participate in the reunion because of teaching and work commitments) in CYNIC's reunion lineup, has been involved with the band since the pre-"Focus" days and toured with the band in Europe in support of the CD. He also played bass on the classic and much-sought-after PORTAL demos and toured the U.K. with Paul and Sean's AEON SPOKE project. Teegarden also previously toured with CYNIC in support of "Focus", while Santiago — who is said to be "the man behind AGHORA" — has been around the CYNIC camp since 1993-94 and was one of Masvidal's guitar students in Miami back in the day.
According to Masvidal, guitarist Jason Gobel was approached about participating in the reunion, but was forced to turn it down due to family and work commitments. However, he gave the rest of the group his blessings to proceed and is said to be "honored" to have Santiago as his replacement.
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Jajajaja het gaat komen. Nu ff 200.000 mails van MF-ers en dan doen ze alle steden aan in ons landje haha.
The following are actual submissions on a series of quizzes, tests, and essays.
"The moon is a planet just like the earth, only it is even deader."
"Water is composed of two gins, Oxygin and Hydrogin. Oxygin is pure gin. Hydrogin is gin and water."
"The moon is a planet just like the earth, only it is even deader."
"Water is composed of two gins, Oxygin and Hydrogin. Oxygin is pure gin. Hydrogin is gin and water."
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Net een mailtje bij ze achtergelaten dat we ze met open armen verwelkomen. Man, ik hoop dat ze echt een aantal shows in NL doen.
The following are actual submissions on a series of quizzes, tests, and essays.
"The moon is a planet just like the earth, only it is even deader."
"Water is composed of two gins, Oxygin and Hydrogin. Oxygin is pure gin. Hydrogin is gin and water."
"The moon is a planet just like the earth, only it is even deader."
"Water is composed of two gins, Oxygin and Hydrogin. Oxygin is pure gin. Hydrogin is gin and water."
Iemand belangstelling om een gitaar van Paul Masvidal te kopen?
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en nog een paar in de aanbieding.....
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Fusion? Tymon?
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en nog een paar in de aanbieding.....
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Fusion? Tymon?
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